gee, i look back at the funny bookkeeping of clinton to create a false surplus, the several attacks worldwide against our interests to which clinton was too busy getting BJs from girls his daughter’s age to confront, and i wonder just how anyone can look back fondly. but i get it, bite me, your analysis is like the surface of the ocean – is it smooth? wavy?

come to think of it, how very odd that you would use a moniker such as “bite me” and refer to clinton as the glory years. got an oral fixation, son? there’s meds for that, you know.

it’s ok. we still like you. thanks for playing along!

gee, i look back at the funny bookkeeping of clinton to create a false surplus, the several attacks worldwide against our interests to which clinton was too busy getting BJs from girls his daughter’s age to confront, and i wonder just how anyone can look back fondly. but i get it, bite me, your analysis is like the surface of the ocean – is it smooth? wavy?

come to think of it, how very odd that you would use a moniker such as “bite me” and refer to clinton as the glory years. got an oral fixation, son? there’s meds for that, you know.

it’s ok. we still like you. thanks for playing along!

…jus’ curious, what did you tards think of the $713 billion republican alternative bill?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/…lus/index.html

..and Charlie Crist on TV just now supporting Obama’s plan?

…jus’ curious, what did you tards think of the $713 billion republican alternative bill?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/…lus/index.html

..and Charlie Crist on TV just now supporting Obama’s plan?

But yeah, due to bill death I understand that cloture may be a safety move first. Makes sense.

But yeah, due to bill death I understand that cloture may be a safety move first. Makes sense.

i might for cloture reasons other than supporting a bill. when a bill is voted on – and presume it does not pass – it is dead and needs to reintroduced. so i may for to bring the vote to the floor because i think i have the backing to kill it.

i agree that many times cloture is invoked because they want the bill to pass – and the filibuster was to delay the vote – but that is always true.

remember as well, some bills need super majorities to pass – 2/3s – which exceed the cloture 60 vote minimum.

i might for cloture reasons other than supporting a bill. when a bill is voted on – and presume it does not pass – it is dead and needs to reintroduced. so i may for to bring the vote to the floor because i think i have the backing to kill it.

i agree that many times cloture is invoked because they want the bill to pass – and the filibuster was to delay the vote – but that is always true.

remember as well, some bills need super majorities to pass – 2/3s – which exceed the cloture 60 vote minimum.

I understand that much, my point was this. If you have enough votes to break a filibuster, then you have enough votes to get the thing passed by majority. So it seems pointless, no? Just vote.

I understand that much, my point was this. If you have enough votes to break a filibuster, then you have enough votes to get the thing passed by majority. So it seems pointless, no? Just vote.

Source – http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/b_three_sections_with_teasers/virtual.htm

Cloture. The cloture rule–Rule 22–is the only formal procedure that Senate rules provide for breaking a filibuster. A filibuster is an attempt to block or delay Senate action on a bill or other matter. Under cloture, the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours of debate.

Filibuster. Using the filibuster to delay debate or block legislation has a long history. The term filibuster, from a Dutch word meaning “pirate,” became popular in the United States during the 1850s when it was applied to efforts to hold the Senate floor in order to prevent action on a bill.

Source – http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/b_three_sections_with_teasers/virtual.htm

Cloture. The cloture rule–Rule 22–is the only formal procedure that Senate rules provide for breaking a filibuster. A filibuster is an attempt to block or delay Senate action on a bill or other matter. Under cloture, the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours of debate.

Filibuster. Using the filibuster to delay debate or block legislation has a long history. The term filibuster, from a Dutch word meaning “pirate,” became popular in the United States during the 1850s when it was applied to efforts to hold the Senate floor in order to prevent action on a bill.

So cloture is to stop filibuster, which they need 60 votes for, which in other words is a winning majority, no? I am not 100% how it works.

So cloture is to stop filibuster, which they need 60 votes for, which in other words is a winning majority, no? I am not 100% how it works.

Looks like they might have started listening to Rush Limbaugh.

Looks like they might have started listening to Rush Limbaugh.